Updated on December 11, 2011
Review – ProForm Tour de France Stationary Bike
If you watched the Tour this year, you couldn’t help but notice the ads for the ProForm TDF bike. It inclines and declines up to 20%. You can plot your own routes on Google Maps and download them to the bike or ride preset routes like each Tour stage from 2011. It adjusts resistance to simulate wind speed based on your size. It slices, dices, and overall looks pretty damn sexy.
The initial geek in my wanted to reach for the phone and order one straight away. The little pragmatist in me (yes, there is one… just not very loud) said I should hold off until all the bugs were shaken out and I could see some reviews. Even now, the reviews on this bike are few and far between. There’s reviews on ProForm’s site, which arguably may be a bit biased. There are some write-ups from ppl with early version problems. and only one or two comprehensive reviews… So I’m writing this one.
Fast forward to the fall. I’m doing a lot more cold weather riding that I did last year, but even with that, the days are getting shorter and my home and work life have been very busy. Plus my wife has been riding our existing stationary bike almost daily in an attempt to fend off the extra pounds from the upcoming holiday and ShmooCon season. Our current stationary is a recumbent that Lifecycle we bought from Costco about 10 years ago. It was a little shaky and creaky when we bought it. Now, with about 5,000 miles on it, I keep expecting Mr. Scott to call me and say “I’m not sure how much more she can take, kiptin”
The Decision
Dropping a couple hundred dollars on an bike stand or another extra hundred on a set of rollers is one thing. I’ve got a stand, and I found it to be about the most boring way to ride a bike ever been invented. I’ve got a set of rollers, which I really enjoy. The rollers have been great for improving my balancing, practicing drills, and generally making a fool of myself when I forget to pay attention. Utimately, I want something I can ride for long periods of time (up to 2 hours) and work on increasing my base all winter long. And I want something Heidi can enjoy riding and get a better workout from than our current Costco special. The ProForm TDF seemed to fit the bill… plus it made the geek in me _really_ excited.
I should note that I did look at the CompuTrainer. It’s in the same price range as the ProForm TDF ($1300 for the TDF vs $1600ish for the CompuTrainer depending on configuration). While the CompuTrainer is clearly a serious training machine, using it for 2 ppl and 2 different bikes was really what nix’d it. I didn’t want to have to spend time swapping out bikes all winter long depending on who wanted to ride.
The Order
So a few weeks ago, I caved and ordered the ProForm TDF. They had been running a free shipping promo that I had just missed, but I found a coupon online to save $100, so it all worked out in the end. I ordered it on Saturday 10/29 and received it 11/14. Two week turn around. Not bad for something that ships UPS ground from the other side of the country.
I should note there was ZERO feedback on the order beyond the initial “Thanks for ordering with us” email. Actually, I did get an email asking if I wanted an extended warrantee (I didn’t). But other than that, the only reason I knew the bike had shipped is because I decided to check the ProForm website to see if they had any status info. For a 150lbs box, a little heads up that it was inbound would have been nice.
Delivery and Setup
Some of the worst horror stories online have been about the state of the bike when it’s delivered, missing parts, difficult assembly, etc. Lots of info on banged up bikes and bikes that got banged through an assembly process that apparently involved differential calculus. So I watched the videos ProForm has online about assembly and honestly it didn’t look too difficult. But I was still nervous.
The box showed up and looked fine. A few minor dings and dents, but nothing out of the ordinary for a box as heavy and big as the TDF showed up in. I opened the top which has a small graphic that explains how to unpack the bike. Opening up the box all the way, and it’s clear the graphic and the contents bear no resemblance to each other. I think ProForm has found a new way to pack the bike (which involves enough styrofoam to fill up 2 garbage cans) that keeps the bike more secure and protected during transit. Rather than follow the directions on the box, I pulled all the staples from the cardboard and removed the box completely before attempting to remove parts.
Assembly was straight forward. There were some supplemental instructions included that clarified some points, specifically how NOT to pinch the cables and short out the internal connections. WIth the help of my 9 year old son, and trying to be as quiet as we could because my youngest was taking a nap in the next room, we got the whole thing unboxed and put together in just over an hour. I installed our own Shimano 105 pedals rather than use the clips they sent with it.
Initializing
Once the bike is put together, you have a few extra steps. First, you have to go to iFit.com and set up an account. You can create multiple users for one account, so I set up one for me and my wife. You enter in your basic info such as weight, size, riding preferences, and you’re ready. Also, on iFit you can queue up rides you want to do on the bike. So I put in a pre-mapped ride up a road in Mt. Rainier National Park and then mapped a local ride I do on a regular basis and put that in the queue.
On the bike, you have to configure the WiFi network before you can do anything. I have an Apple Express/Extreme network throughout the house using WPA2. Earlier versions of the bike required an unecrypted network so I was prepared to have an open network on another segment in my house. Apparently, with the latest version, the bike supports WPA2. Entering keys and things in is tedious, but eventually I got the network setup.
DHCP however, was a different matter. It didn’t want to grab a DHCP lease. So I hard coded an IP address (again, a VERY tedious process). Once I did that, the bike brought the network stack online… including a quick flash on the screen that said “starting telnet server”. 🙂 Oh yes. A telnet server. More on that later.
Once online, the bike looks for the latest firmware and installs it. From there, it’s basically ready to ride.
The Ride
Jump on, select a mode from a variety of modes including Manual, riding a TDF route, a route you’ve mapped, or pre-mapped iFit maps. There are other options I haven’t explored yet.
Once you select the ride, you just start pedaling. Using the data from Google Maps, the bike then works its magic. Bike tips up and down and changes resistance to mimic what you’d have on the open road. I road a short course I’ve ridden probably 40 times this year, and I have to say it’s pretty darn accurate. As you shift gears, you can work hard on the downhills if you want or you can just coast and take it easy. On the Mt. Rainier ride, I climbed a 15% grade for over 2 miles. The bike was tipped back, I was generating nearly 400 watts, and I was up out of the saddle. The bike was stable and didn’t flex under that much pressure.
Also, the bike relays back to iFit telemetry data about your ride. So you can fire up an iPad or your computer, go to the iFit website, and watch the Google StreetView of your ride… assuming your location has street view. There’s just enough room below the computer screen on the bike to rest an iPad and watch the passing scene… as it were.
You can adjust your gearset through the setting on the console. Double, Triple, and compact cranks are available as well as a full compliment from 11-23 to 12-28 in the back.
Besides the motor that controls the tilt of the bike, it’s almost completely silent when you’re riding in. In manual mode, if you’re not changing the tilt yourself, you could easily go for an early morning ride while the rest of the house is asleep and not wake a soul. It’s pretty impressive.
The geometry of the bike is as configurable as most spin bikes you’ll find. You may not find the perfect setup, but you’ll likely find something that works good enough you don’t notice it’s not exactly like your road bike.
Complaints
I do have a few issues with the bike. First, the cranks are set pretty far apart. From a quick measure, they look to be about an 1″ wider apart than what I have on my Cannondale. While it’s not necessarily uncomfortable, it is noticeable. You may find you need to adjust your cleats for your new riding position. I haven’t done that yet, but I’m going to give it a shot on the next ride and see if I can get myself centered up a bit better. The TDF appears to take conventional 3 piece cranks (no BB30’s here) but I don’t think you can really get a new crank on there and bring the pedals any farther in than they are.
Shifting is awkward. The “gear shift” is 2 buttons up on the console. Depending on how rapidly your ride varies, you may find that you’re reaching for them all the time. It’s about as annoying as reaching to your down tube to shift on that 1985 Bianchi you used to ride. 😉 It’s amazing how much we take for granted shifting at our finger tips. This setup does put a serious damper on rides that have a lot of rolling hills or quick changes in terrain. For long climbs it’s not that big of a deal. I’m going to crack open the console and try to figure out some sort of warrantee voiding, DYI way to get shifters on the bars. I’ll keep ppl posted.
Oh, and keep pets and kids away from the spinning wheel in the back. That thing really moves. 🙂
Hacking
For those not so geek inclined, skip this section.
When you telnet to the bike, you get dropped to a root prompt on it with no authentication. It’s running BusyBox Linux on an ARM processor. Nothing too exotic. Poking around on the filesystem, there are a few scripts that indicate all the comms is done via SOAP back to iFit. It seems to be over SSL, but I have my doubts about the cert checking. When I have time, I’ll attempt to MiTM the connection and see what pops up.
There are only a few non-Linux native processes running on the system. One is the display process that handles updating the TFT 3″ LCD display. The other is a large binary that has all the secret sauce for IO, monitoring the bike, etc. I haven’t pulled that down off the bike but I”ll do that shortly.
My ultimate goal is to put a web server on my network that can talk to the bike. I want to be able to configure it so if I’m riding, anyone can hit the webserver and adjust the tilt and resistance. I call this “crowd sourced base building”. We’ll see how well it works. I may have something together by ShmooCon time, in which case I’ll bring it down to demo. mmm… Home SCADA hacking.
Conclusion
Overall, this is the most engaging stationary bike I’ve ridden. It’s a lot of fun to ride, has a great deal of variety, and supports my training goals as well as that of my wife. So far, I’m happy. I’ll post an update on the bike in a few months once I have more runtime with it.
Nice review – We just started using ours (we ordered early September, received November 15 or so) and I am initially quite optimistic.
Two points – you reference gear shifts on the console, but you also have the option of using the shifter buttons which are under the handlebars. Much more convenient!
Point two – I have been able to get the bike to connect to our WiFi twice, and have downloaded the latest firmware, but now it won’t reconnect. I will try rebooting the network router (Verizon FIOS), but if you have to input the router address and iFit ID every time you use the bike, that is a serious drawback and one that would see me giving only two stars (on a five scale).
Happy training to you and your wife.
There are shifter buttons under the handle bars? Oof. I had no idea. I didn’t see any buttons. Are they under the rubberized cover and not obviously visible? I’m on vacation at the moment so I can’t check my bike.
I have FIOS too, but my Wifi is provided by a bunch of Apple gear. The DHCP (IP address, etc) is provided by my FIOS router, and that was totally not working right. Once I hard set the IP, I was fine. I can’t imagine having to enter the IP and iFit info every time. That’s terrible 🙁 Hopefully they can get a bug fix out for you.
You may be able to go in through the telnet interface and set it that way. I’m sure that’s completely unsupported, but may be a fix that takes as opposed to something that seems to go away after each reboot. I may be able to guide you through that if you’re interested.
I received mine yesterday. I waited about a week and a half to get it. There are shifters on the left and right handle bars.
Yeah. Mine definitely does not have shifters. I just wrote Icon to see if I can get them. We’ll see how that goes.
I have a .4 version I think. Do you know what version of the bike you have?
what’d you find out about the handle bars… I just ordered mine today.
FYI — as of Dec 11 if you go here, and use the code TDF200 you will get $200 off, a free heart rate monitor that works with the bike and a free mat. Also includes free ground UPS Shipping. Link: http://www.fitnessexperts.com/proform-tour-de-france-bike/ (They also claim is has shifters on the handlebars.)
I have been using my TdF since early November and generally am in full agreement with your review. I did not have any issues with network connectivity. Thus far, it has worked flawlessly.
I have yet to find the elusive buttons that change gears on the handlebars. I would love to hear more specific directions on where they are located. Also, I’ve received contray reports on whether a heart rate monitor works with the TdF. When one was not included in my order, I wrote back to sales and was told that there was not a monitor that worked with the TdF. More recently, I’ve been told by another sales associate that the Polar T34 and T31 monitors work. I tried to get clarification again and have yet to receive another response. I recall when I was installing the wiring into the console that I had a heart rate monitor wire that didn’t connect to anything. This has been very confusing.
If anyone has some more guidance based upon your experience, I would sure appreciate hearing it!
Would really like to hear more about the shifters on the handle bars, I also have the July 2011 model and don’t see anything that looks like a shift button.
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I just posted pics of what the shifters and heart rate monitor looks like. http://cycleoverride.org/?p=495
I guess that is what you get for being the first to buy one. Mine definitely doesn’t have shifter buttons like that! Man that would be nice to have. Looks like you console is a bit different as well.
Got. Ine today and it won’t even pick up the wifi. I have an apple airport extreme so it should be fine but the bike seems to be searching for the connection and not finding it. Any ideas?
What type of encryption do you have? Maybe you can turn off encryption, update the firmware, then turn wpa2 back on.
Anyone know what the triple crank uses for gearing -I know the rear cassett lowest is 11-28 But what are the front triple gearing?48-38-28? No documentation included
I was at a buddy of mine a few days ago, and notice that his bike does have side bar shifters. Man, mine is only two months younger than his. Reply from Proform, was that is the new model. My buddy paid the same price, for, in my opinion, upgrades…handelbars and seat post are different,a bit better construction and placement. Still waiting for a reply from the company, anyone lucky enough in getting bars with side shifters.
I too sent a note to proform asking what is up with the design changes so soon. Haven’t heard anything 1 week later. Seems the only time they reply is when you post on their Facebook wall which I’m about to do. A great bike, but gimme a break with the Apple release cycle on new features!! Funny thing is they are really nice to have features and they don’t even mention them on their web site!
GDEAD, thanks for the review!
I’ve been considering the TDF to replace my Computrainer, which is really loud when I get going. Is there a way to change cranks or the handle bar or replace the plastic band for a real chain? DId you get to hack the software?
The only issue I have is the connection. It can take up to 20 minutes messing around. It is really hit and miss. The bike can really kick my ass!!!
It appears that you have the TDF gen 1 and everyone who is talking about shifters on the handle bar has brought the latest version which is a TDF gen 2.
Really appreciate your review and all the subsequent comments. We received our TDF in January and have not been able to connect to our Apple Extreme WIFI yet! Have tried many options, but now at least have a few questions based on what I read on your posts. Before now didn’t think anyone else was having a problem.
When you manually entered your WIFI information and in particular the bike’s IP address, did you use an IP outside of your DHCP range or did you reserve an IP in the DHCP range using the MAC address?
Either way, do you really have to manually enter the WIFI info everytime? That would definitely be a pain.
Did you have to use port mapping to open any additional ports, one of the tech guys at proform said we needed to?
We would appreciate any help with this since we want to take full advantage of our new bike!
Really disappointed!!!
My console died after only 3 weeks of usage and in that time had trouble connecting to wifi, even though my bike is literally 10 feet from the computer system.
Now have been told that the consoles are out of stock…I call bullshit, they are still selling bikes with consoles so they are out there somewhere. I guess they have my money so they don’t care.
I have now been 3 weeks without a functioning bike, after selling my perfectly good full carbon road bike to purchase this POS.
What upsets me even more is that the bike worked great when it worked so I am toying with asking for a refund and getting them to cart away a very expensive clothes rack that is sitting in my office.
Can you retrofit those gen 2 handlebar shifters to the gen 1?
Or did anyone figure out how to get DIY shifters?
Those stupid gear buttons on the console are unusable.
I bought a gen 1 last fall (2011) but it apparently has the gen 2 console (at least if looks like the one on the gen 2 bike on the proform webpage). It has no handlebar shifters. That’s been my only major complaint, shifting is a pain in the ass.
Sure would like to retofit some shifters to the bike.
According to proform, there is no retrofit for shifter functionality.
Ive got the gen two, theres issues witht the bolt heads
on the fly wheel theres four bolts thats threads into the
plastic fly wheel one of the heads of the screws broke off and started unthreading on the inside and kept hitting the frame.
I had the exact same problem. I was impressed with how quickly the parts were sent and a repair person showed up at my house to fix it. He drove over 2 hours to get here, but knew exactly how to fix it. I was expecting only a new screw, but they sent the whole flywheel assembly. It’s a good thing, because the loose screw did damage the flywheel, too.
Well, not even 6 months old and the crank is off center so I got hold of Proform and it’s been three weeks with me not riding it due to the possibility of doing more damage.
They said they would send out a repair guy, heard nothing and nothing seems to get done unless I keep emailing.
I am afraid I am done with this piece of equipment and will be contacting Proform asking for a refund. They can come and take it away. It has been unrideable for almost 2 months while waiting for a new console and now this..I bought on Dec 23 2011 and it’s now April 25…awesome!
Wow, I’m glad I haven’t had any problems like this! I have the Gen 2 TDF bike and I absolutely love it! Awesome bike, great ride everytime and the ifit system is sweet, Sorry to read these bad experiences, love mine!
I would love to give you a review of the trainer, unfortunately, I have had for one month and not been able to ride it because a set of four bolts were incorrectly inserted when it was constructed at the factory and they need to be replaced but it is virtually impossible to get the service department to get the technician (who came out to diagnose the problem and ordered the new bolts) out to fix it. So, one month after it was delivered, it sits, while the worst service department in the history of mankind gives you a run around that is truly disgraceful.
Bought this bike in January and had a broken crankshaft in May. Took almost 2 months go get repair tech to service it but then was told frame was cracked too. Proform doesn’t even believe their own repair tech and refuses to repair or refund the bike. This thing is a POS!
Bike sure looks pretty sitting in the living room – but that’s about it. Nothing but problems since it was FINALLY delivered – over a month after ordering, without tools. Oops. Still waiting for accessories a month and a half later. Oops. Many pieces of the order were shipped to the wrong address. Oops. Petals were loose after costly in-home set-up. Oops. Day one bike got a hitch. Oops. Had to wait for tools to be delivered – which was asap. Ok. Following troubleshooting from manual didn’t fix it. Oops. They are sending a new part and then we’ll see how long to set up in-home service…. But of course, who knows where the part will be mailed. Not happy campers.
Phone people are VERY nice, but the sales/parts/warranty must all use different computer systems for information – when you can get them.
It might be the greatest product since sliced bread, but we feel like throwing it out already – nothing but aggravation – trying first get it delivered, and now use.
If you really want to complcate your life, buy one of these. Oh ya, once in a while you hop on it and it works like majic but more typically you will have to put on your Bill Gates hat and waste a lot of time just getting online.
1] The ifit site is unpredictable, sometimes maps work but other times… I don’t even know what happened.
b: If you do like to make your own map and you get ifit figured out your next challenge is getting the bikes high tech wireless thing to recognize and hook up to your router. (like navigating LA without a map)
3) You’ll probably have to re-log in to both your home network and the ifit site which means having to use a 1972 Atari membrane keyboard. The letter “A” and #9 are about 17 arrows or key pushes apart not including failed pushes.
4) Hard to move bike around
5) Other than that it is pretty cool.
The help line is ok but I would not purchase an excersise toy which requires as much bull)^$@** as this one does again.
So far I’ve been pleased with my proform tdf bike. Only complaints so far are:
Bars are too close to cranks so knees hit when I stand. Seat is too ar back from cranks so I’m setup all the way forward. Wattage and calorie calculations are too high.
No problems with Internet connectivity or flywheel yet…
Will let you know in 30 days
When we got ours back in 2011 it took a long time to show up. No notice of shipment or delivery. It showed up on the driveway, crumpled box, some things damaged inside. After setup, crank (actually a bearing in the rear) made an awful noise so we did not use it for fear of further damage. Tech ordered a part, part delivered, part defective, ordered another same issue. Went through this order, install, bad, order again … three times. It took forever … 3 months before we could really start using it.
Ya, the incline is cool but the map SUCKS. How the heck can you really tell where you are – can’t zoom it, nada. Shifting (if that is what you want to call it) sucks too like others have said especially where you have quick terrain changes. We do a lot of climbing here with up on the pedals, sit, up, etc.
Gee, the new one has the shifters at your finger tips like they should be although I do not have a newer model to try. It’s obvious the designers of the 2011 where not cyclists.
Thumbs down for $1500+ trainer unless you just want to spin or stay on a sustained climb.
I’d like to try iFit street view (GDEAD) if I can figure that out. I do not own an iPhone or iPad .. an never will.
And of course there are plenty of place you may want to
visit that are outside the reach of a bicycle. I buy schwinn 230 Recumbent
Exercise Bike for my 2 65 year old parents.
Right after the exercise bike move straight on to the action climber for any
interval of quarter-hour climbing on a mild degree to get the legs heading.
Great review ! i have to of the new 2012 versions and have had no issues ! Have you had any luck getting it to talk to your own webserver ? i want to do the same thing and have been looking but dont want to re-invent the wheel if you have something working 🙂
Bruce, if you look at the date of the article, the TDF he reviewed is the first Gen, not the 2nd gen like what you have. I just ordered mine a few days ago and now question my purchase as I’ve read about more downtime and problem with the bike than happy rides. Heres to hoping!
There is a heartrate monitor that works with the first generation TDF (no handlebar shifiters) part number is:
323564 – ACCSRY,CHEST PULSE,PFEX19810.3
(Item Model Number: PFEX19810)
$99 +S&H
I like the review I have read here, and I also but the Pro-form Le Tour de France spin bike, boy I was excited when it arrived, unpacked it, put it together with no problem, plug it in put the switch on and nothing, called customer service long story short they are sending me the cable to replace the ones it came with. Already I have had issues with the bike. It will take two weeks to get the cables, than I have to schedule an appointment for a tech guy to replace them. So far not a happy camper.
Do you know how to make the bike work with an iPad 2?
Did you get to hack into the TDF console. I’d be interested to capture the data that goes to iFit (and the power readings that don’t go anywhere) and use it with TrainingPeaks or some other serious cycling software…
I am also extremely interested in the data. I use Trainer road, and training peaks to make sure my power #’s are right when following my plan. My In-laws bought this for me before I started racing. Now I am a cat 3 and every advantage helps. I have 2 young children and am taking this bike to my office. It would be so nice to be able to export that file and import it to TP.
I have gen 2 TDF that failed a firmware upgrade and now the boot stops at Loading Applications. There seems to be a good number techno geeks on this site and I was hoping to get some help. The console has a boot from USB jumper selection. Has anyone used this function and is there a way to reload firmware via a USB. I have contacted both Proform, Ifit and Icon, but short of purchasing a new console I have receive very little help.
Thanks for your time
Terrible build nothing but problems after problem discusting buy
Don’t sweat on touch screen I have had 3 now ,they are not sweat proof ,incline stopped working after 2 weeks,icon customer service is very poor they treat you like dirt
Do not purchase this product they will not fix mine under warranty implying i have to take them to court because console not working